Bamboo community

"Evolution as virtual community - lacking face-to-face. Possibility of Bamboo being like Bamboo in gardens - just doesn't go away. On a regional basis, every few years, a face-to-face interaction." (W2, Tools and Content, risks and rewards, plenary notes)

"For every connection w/ Bamboo, because relationship developed into this workshop. We're trying to solve the "pub problem" - we have a community now, and we're all in the big pub sharing ideas, and since we're in the pub we can talk to each other and over a virtual beer we can make a connection. Work of working groups/program staff/ extended community w/ Bamboo-- lots of power/ideas/possibilities here." (W4 Introductory Remarks, Chad Kainz)

"What we're proposing - over 7-10 years, building on discussion metaphor and suggesting there's a fundamental role for PB to play in terms of continuing conversation around intersection of schol. practice around A, H, and interpretive Social Science. Elements to allow people across different universities/communities to find each other, understand what's possible, simple ways to connect w/ other resources, publish information, etc." (W4, Overview of Program Document)

"Selection problem: need to select tools, worried about how to make that selection fairly. How to select tools we'll bring together, maintain focus of this community. Probable that we can't address everyone needs in first pass. How to keep people engaged, not lose that segment of the community. Dependencies - relationships: need relationships w/ projects and faculty we're trying to help." (W4 Action Plan - 4.4 Tool and Application Alignment Partnerships, discussion)

"[Education group] also talked abut this; need involvement as beta testers, working w/ scholarly narratives, pulling in faculty, talking specifically abut assignments, getting students involved, educating faculty." (W4 Action Plan - 4.4 Tool and Application Alignment Partnerships, discussion)

"Feedback proces: Testing, feedback, redesign, Connects back to iterative design" (W4 - Guiding Principles for Bamboo, Group 1)

"PB needs in the first year to establish a core of tools, etc as a demonstration. Hum scholars need to be integrated into development. In short range: work w/ people already involved in something digital; long range - get many more humanists involved. "Bamboo Charter" - document that needs to address needs and points of view explicitly of different audiences - "unusual suspects", general suspects, chairs/deans/admins/CIO." (W4 - Guiding Principles for Bamboo, Group 2)

"Human element, knitting together different kinds of work, ways Bamboo can reach out and connect, but also how we can build and nurture community from within. Important area - "if you'd like to come to an area where you can have interesting and wacky discussions, come this afternoon!"" (W5, Overview: Major Areas of Work)

"Community section as having a narrow jurisdiction - what has to happen to run some of the ongoing workshops we'd hold in implementation phase, what has to happen to develop/support next generation of wiki tool, a lot of broader sense of community (people w/o even formal role of PB) is happening in Atlas/Scholarly Networking/Services platform." (W5, Overview: Major Areas of Work, Q&A, David Greenbam)

David Greenbaum: "[Community is] not just governance, there's other things we need to do to sustain ongoing communication. 30+ institutions involved in making PB work - how do we make sure the group, in terms of formal membership/participation, can keep that going, sustain those conversations, etc. 100k people involved in Humanities - much larger community, trying to reach out to them through Atlas, Services Platform, Scholarly Networking." Chad Kainz: "There's the Group that's There running the project, actively participating. There's people doing leadership/development. 671 people on the wiki, not that many in this room. There's an extended community of individuals and institutions; this is "Our Community". Efforts/work in bringing in new ideas, sharing concepts, connecting w/ projects, sharing resources - this is human connection above that; from that, we define specific pieces that we might want to develop/build to support the greater good; this is where we get into governance, project moving forward in different areas. We set off to be a tech project; ended up with a set of tech projects AND a group of individuals that have come together to solve problems with or without tech." (W5, Overview: Major Areas of Work, Q&A)

"Virtual collaboration piece - how does scholarly networking interface w/ community, w/ all the other pieces? If the community is about expressing Bamboo, advocating for particular approaches, best practices, connecting, collaborating, continuing community, sharing ideas/resources/etc, then virtual environment should support our activities/tools/etc. Current set of tools is probably inadequate for moving forward. We just have to do this, not the kind of thing we start in January and hopefully it's done by following January - kind of useless that way. Should look at demonstrator, integrate community into governance, and between now and December, launch demonstrator that does requirements analysis, looks at what we need to be doing to get the right capabilities for collaboration, then extend Bamboo beyond the boundaries of this community. Move forward with an implementation in that demonstrator, to have a 0.9 version around December. So it's ready for January." (W5, Report Out: Major Areas of Work, Bamboo Community)

"Community design - what came out of W2, scholars didn't just want to toss a requirements analysis over the wall and have techies tell them what they wanted. A call for humanists to get out there and get involved. Spectrum of requirements analysis can be a two-way communication. How things connect back. Humanists can get involved at different levels, too. Scholars SHOULD be concerned about low-level design; you'd better know how the stemming is being done. Bringing out phrase "community design". Community design of shared cyberinfrastructure." (W5, blog report on Atlas and community design, Worthy Martin)

Q: "What do we mean by "community"? For me, it means individuals who have time to do this (want to, are paid to, etc. for their own reasons). We don't know WHO actually will do work?" Worthy Martin: "This is important - kind of information that Atlas gathers as metadata; this is hard to have people just do on the side. Notion of the Bamboo resources going into giving people time/resources to be charged with doing that, rather than "just write some documentation when you're done"" (W5, blog report on Atlas and community design, Q&A)

Q: "I think that's where the issue of advocacy becomes rather important; community of Bamboo relates to communities that exist in local areas. Those communities in local areas need to link design and engineering with IT with researchers. That's what needs to be done at the local level for successful projects. Bamboo wants to have a structure that facilitates collaboration in local areas, feeds into it; advocacy: those teams we're talking about are almost normal in the context of the sciences, to the extent that if they're developing a major project, can say "in this case, we want a film editing person working with us, etc" can go to school of art, bring them in. They have the resources to have a mixed community necessary to achieve objectives. They'll stretch into the humanities to do that. We want to reverse that project, with putting humanities at the center. Will link into community of people locally, but we at Bamboo can show models for how that can work effectively for the Humanities. And then create kind of resources in long term that will facilitate that." (W5, blog report on Atlas and community design, Q&A)

"Almost everyone wants to eliminate Bamboo Community into Section 5 [of BIP Discussion Draft v0.5]." (W5, Preliminary Vote: Major Areas of Work)

"We may want to call out specific leadership to make sure right things are moving forward, might want to consider that for community. Will have to wrangle a lot of "stuff" to coordinate things and keep it together. Shift of scholarly networking to UI-focused entity: one problem is coordinating activity across units. Executive committee: leaders of different working groups, executive director, "Bamboo office", and a program manager who is responsible for wrangling all the activity to keep it on target/path/message, all the "on's". Need to make sure that on proposals submitted, Bamboo continues to deliver on what it's promised. Focus on program-related duties; how does services platform and work of services platform folks interact w/ other services activities." (W5, Preliminary Vote: Major Areas of Work)

"A few years out, idea that a group of scholars could get together an suggest they want the possibility of bringing together repositories, and curating content with certain tools, etc - that activity, I don't see where that happens." (W5, Open Discussion: Governance, Worthy Martin)

"We had an issue about the logical ordering of proposal, people were reacting to splitting things out, but uniformly recognition of power of working together as community. As we reflect on feedback here, we want to build that in, but 5-7 people feel that making [community] a MAoW muddied the waters. Need to figure out a way to make proposal logically consistent, but have community appear in multiple dimensions." (W5, Open Discussion: Bamboo Community, David Greenbaum)

Worthy Martin: "What happened to [community] in scholarly networking section? Current suggestion to go to section 5 [of BIP Discussion Draft v0.5] - okay, but it's crucial part of scholarly networking part. Permeates everything, should be coming up all over the place, seems to have been taken out of scholarly network; this is troublesome." David Greenbaum: "One thing we heard on that front, how we look at revised scholarly networking/atlas - doing right conjoining so people/community/connection part gets instantiated in that work along with other sustaining the community in section 5." (W5, Open Discussion: Bamboo Community, David Greenbaum)

"Important to capture this as part of the story of the planning process. Interesting observation looking at this project, in conversations, we applied for an internal institutional grant, got funding to come do this-- these stories we need. Much more community than we ever imagined. If you have a story saying that you could participate for doing something cool, demonstrators opened up new opportunities, enabled conversations, triggered new ways of thinking, etc. - we need these stories. Helps re-enforce community case for PB, not just technology. Really makes a point about how important working together is, what we view as potential; not just stuff, but connections/opportunities that OUR social networking has enabled." (W5, Open Discussion: Bamboo Community, Chad Kainz)

Bamboo tags: 

Add new comment